NO New Order & Joy Division master tapes discovered – the rumours are wrong
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February 15, 2012
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# NO New Order & Joy Division master tapes discovered – the rumours are wrong
Superlatives are dangerous, they can break things. Last night's 'news'
of forgotten and rediscovered **Joy Division** and **New Order** master
tapes was excactly something like this, as Electronic Beats learned
today.
The (management-sided verified) yellow-press "fact" is this: Pop-chef
**Jamie Oliver** works on opening up a new restaurant inside the rooms
of an 2009 abandoned Manchester bank building.
Yesterday
On Monday he [tweeted][1]{: target="_blank"} (see below) in
conversation with **Charlatans** lead singer **Tim Burgess** what was
found in the forgotten treasury rooms in the basement around three years
back.
> @[Tim\_Burgess][2] gotta check the vaults there amazing when the bank
> moved out they found 1 million unclaimed £ and loads new order
> originals jox
>
> --- Jamie Oliver (@jamieoliver) [February 13, 2012][3]
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Apparently, various [media][4]{: target="_blank"} [reports][5]{:
target="_blank"} picked this up, making old stuff look like spectacular
news. Alongside "*guns, gold and jewellery*" the tapes were reported to
having been discovered, estimated to being worth around 1.1 million
quid. **Bernard Sumner's management** today confirmed an EB request,
stating that "*the bank closed in early 2009 and (they) moved the
contents of (their own) storage vault to new storage elsewhere at that
time. There were no long lost master tapes or unexpected finds.*" To
break it down: no 'Unknown Treasures'!
In related news: although there's still a [gulf][6]{: target="_blank"}
between original member and bass player **Peter Hook** and [the recently
reformed New Order][7] members about the band's legacy, New Order
continue with a big number of live concerts and festival shows all
across Europe, Japan, Australia, and the USA -- catch up with **Bernard
Sumner**, **Gillian Gilbert**, **[Stephen Morris][8]**, **Phil
Cunningham**, and **Tom Chapman** at [one of these events][9].
Last but not least: read DJ Greg Wilson's highly interesting and
insightful [blog post][10]{: target="_blank"} on the **Fac 51
Haçienda**, the world famous 'Madchester' nightclub originally owned and
run by New Order and **Factory Records**.
*The author on Twitter*:
[Follow @wwwacht][11]{: .twitter-follow-button}
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[1]: https://twitter.com/#!/jamieoliver/status/169166797839405056
[2]: https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess
[3]: https://twitter.com/jamieoliver/status/169166797839405056
[4]: http://www.nme.com/news/joy-division/62037
[5]: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=%22New+Order%22+%22Joy+Division%22+master&oq=%22New+Order%22+%22Joy+Division%22+master&aq=f&aqi=d1d-o1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=962l12879l0l13287l39l37l0l26l0l0l171l1152l5.6l11l0
[6]: http://www.spex.de/2011/09/10/musik-peter-hook-new-order-wiedervereinigung-joy-division/
[7]: http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/news/new-order-return-to-the-stage-to-play-brussels-and-paris "EBnet: New Order return to the stage to play Brussels and Paris"
[8]: http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/interviews/stephen-morris-tanks-for-the-beats "EBnet: Interview: Stephen Morris - Tanks for the beats"
[9]: http://www.electronicbeats.net/event/new-order "EBnet: New Order tour dates"
[10]: http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2012/02/the-hacienda-dj-booth/
[11]: https://twitter.com/wwwacht
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<p> Superlatives are dangerous, they can break things. Last night’s ‘news’ of forgotten and rediscovered <strong>Joy Division</strong> and <strong>New Order</strong> master tapes was excactly something like this, as Electronic Beats learned today.</p><p>The (management-sided verified) yellow-press “fact” is this: Pop-chef <strong>Jamie Oliver</strong> works on opening up a new restaurant inside the rooms of an 2009 abandoned Manchester bank building. <strike>Yesterday</strike> On Monday he <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/jamieoliver/status/169166797839405056" target="_blank">tweeted</a> (see below) in conversation with <strong>Charlatans</strong> lead singer <strong>Tim Burgess</strong> what was found in the forgotten treasury rooms in the basement around three years back.</p><blockquote class="twitter-tweet">
<p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess">Tim_Burgess</a> gotta check the vaults there amazing when the bank moved out they found 1 million unclaimed £ and loads new order originals jox</p>
<p>— Jamie Oliver (@jamieoliver) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieoliver/status/169166797839405056">February 13, 2012</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Apparently, various <a href="http://www.nme.com/news/joy-division/62037" target="_blank">media</a> <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=%22New+Order%22+%22Joy+Division%22+master&oq=%22New+Order%22+%22Joy+Division%22+master&aq=f&aqi=d1d-o1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=962l12879l0l13287l39l37l0l26l0l0l171l1152l5.6l11l0" target="_blank">reports</a> picked this up, making old stuff look like spectacular news. Alongside “<em>guns, gold and jewellery</em>” the tapes were reported to having been discovered, estimated to being worth around 1.1 million quid. <strong>Bernard Sumner’s management</strong> today confirmed an EB request, stating that “<em>the bank closed in early 2009 and (they) moved the contents of (their own) storage vault to new storage elsewhere at that time. There were no long lost master tapes or unexpected finds.</em>” To break it down: no ‘Unknown Treasures’!</p><p>In related news: although there’s still a <a href="http://www.spex.de/2011/09/10/musik-peter-hook-new-order-wiedervereinigung-joy-division/" target="_blank">gulf</a> between original member and bass player <strong>Peter Hook</strong> and <a href="http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/news/new-order-return-to-the-stage-to-play-brussels-and-paris" title="EBnet: New Order return to the stage to play Brussels and Paris">the recently reformed New Order</a> members about the band’s legacy, New Order continue with a big number of live concerts and festival shows all across Europe, Japan, Australia, and the USA – catch up with <strong>Bernard Sumner</strong>, <strong>Gillian Gilbert</strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/interviews/stephen-morris-tanks-for-the-beats" title="EBnet: Interview: Stephen Morris - Tanks for the beats">Stephen Morris</a></strong>, <strong>Phil Cunningham</strong>, and <strong>Tom Chapman</strong> at <a href="http://www.electronicbeats.net/event/new-order" title="EBnet: New Order tour dates">one of these events</a>.</p><p>Last but not least: read DJ Greg Wilson’s highly interesting and insightful <a href="http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2012/02/the-hacienda-dj-booth/" target="_blank">blog post</a> on the <strong>Fac 51 Haçienda</strong>, the world famous ‘Madchester’ nightclub originally owned and run by New Order and <strong>Factory Records</strong>.</p><p><u><em>The author on Twitter</em></u>:<br>
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# NO New Order & Joy Division master tapes discovered – the rumours are wrong Superlatives are dangerous, they can break things. Last night's 'news' of forgotten and rediscovered **Joy Division** and **New Order** master tapes was excactly something like this, as Electronic Beats learned tod...
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Yesterday On Monday he [tweeted][1]{: target="_blank"} (see below) in conversation with **Charlatans** lead singer **Tim Burgess** what was found in the forgotten treasury rooms in the basement around three years back. > @[Tim\_Burgess][2] gotta check the vaults there amazing when the bank &...
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**Bernard Sumner's management** today confirmed an EB request, stating that "*the bank closed in early 2009 and (they) moved the contents of (their own) storage vault to new storage elsewhere at that time. There were no long lost master tapes or unexpected finds.*" To break it down: no 'Unknown T...
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Last but not least: read DJ Greg Wilson's highly interesting and insightful [blog post][10]{: target="_blank"} on the **Fac 51 Haçienda**, the world famous 'Madchester' nightclub originally owned and run by New Order and **Factory Records**. *The author on Twitter*: [Follow @wwwacht][11]{: .tw...